Wishful Wednesday - continuing with #4 William LITTLE

continuing ........ 

             "LITTLE'S" are my Mothers Fathers line
PARENTS
Isaac (1806-1863) & Jane (Mounsey) (1812-1867) LITTLE   [2nd Great Grandparents ]

Siblings of Hudson's.........
doneMary LITTLE (1831- ?) -          [Great Grand Aunt]
doneJohn LITTLE (1832-1861)         [Great Grand Uncle]
doneAnne LITTLE (1835-?)              [Great Grand Aunt]
William LITTLE (1837-1843)     [Great Grand Uncle]
Isaac LITTLE (1840-?)               [Great Grand Uncle]
doneHUDSON LITTLE 1843-1934) [Great Grand Uncle]
Jane Eliza LITTLE 1846-1867)   [Great Grand Aunt]
James LITTLE 1849-1855)        [Great Grand Uncle]
Mounsey LITTLE (1851-1940) ......................................[My Great Grandfather]
Joseph LITTLE (1852-1932)     [Great Grand Uncle]

Next is William LITTLE -fourth child / second son - not named after anyone I have as yet

1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census Transcription - Find My Past nov 2014
Street: Church Town, Parish: Castle Sowerby, registration district: Penrith, County: Cumberland, England archive reference: HO107, piece #: 172; book #: 1, folio # 4, page #: 2, record set: 1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census........

First Name      Last Name       Gender     Age     Birth Year      Birth Place
Isaac              Little                 Male         35       1806          Cumberland, England
Jane                                       Female      30       1811                  "
Mary                                      Female     10       1831                  "
John                                       Male          8        1833                  "
Ann                                        Female       6        1835                 "
William                                   Male          4        1837                  "
Isaac                                      Male           0(10mn)1841               "

What do I know about WILLIAM LITTLE?........

..... christened 2 Apr 1837 in Sebergham, Cumberland, England (same as previous child)

..... little under two years between last child and William

..... in the 1841 UK census with parents -age 4 born in 1837

..... 1841 UK census was only census this child every appeared on

..... William died in Feb 1843....  died at almost 7 years old 

..... NEED to find a tombstone / burial place 

Mystery Monday -continuing with #3 Anne LITTLE

 continuing ........ 

             "LITTLE'S" are my Mothers Fathers line
PARENTS
Isaac (1806-1863) & Jane (Mounsey) (1812-1867) LITTLE   [2nd Great Grandparents ]

Siblings of Hudson's.........
doneMary LITTLE (1831- ?) -          [Great Grand Aunt]
doneJohn LITTLE (1832-1861)         [Great Grand Uncle]
Anne LITTLE (1835-?)              [Great Grand Aunt]
William LITTLE (1837-1843)     [Great Grand Uncle]
Isaac LITTLE (1840-?)               [Great Grand Uncle]
doneHUDSON LITTLE 1843-1934) [Great Grand Uncle]
Jane Eliza LITTLE 1846-1867)   [Great Grand Aunt]
James LITTLE 1849-1855)        [Great Grand Uncle]
Mounsey LITTLE (1851-1940) ......................................[My Great Grandfather]
Joseph LITTLE (1852-1932)     [Great Grand Uncle]

next is ANNE LITTLE........... third child and second daughter - don't see where the name has been repeated. I only know of grandparents of both sides and no ANN/ ANNE's .......  it could be after an Aunt but don't know any of those either.

1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census Transcription - Find My Past nov 2014
Street: Church Town, Parish: Castle Sowerby, registration district: Penrith, County: Cumberland, England archive reference: HO107, piece #: 172; book #: 1, folio # 4, page #: 2, record set: 1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census........

First Name      Last Name       Gender     Age     Birth Year      Birth Place
Isaac              Little                 Male         35       1806          Cumberland, England
Jane                                       Female     30       1811                  "
Mary                                      Female     10       1831                 "
John                                       Male          8       1833                  "
Ann                                       Female     6       1835                  "
William                                   Male          4       1837                  "
Isaac                                     Male           0(10mn)1841               "

====================
What do I know about ANNE?..........
.......... christening 12 Apr 1835 Sebergham, Cumberland, England
.......... second daughter, third child
.......... not named after anyone I can pick out yet
.......... a little under 3 years between John and Anne........  could there have been another child or a miscarriage inbetween the two children?
......... in the 1841 UK Census with her parents age 6........ not with her parents in 1851......  at age 16 would she be married or working in another home??
........ I have her married to someone named TODD. It is a name my father put in some time ago, so I have not dismissed it yet. But I have not had any luck with 1851 or 1861 UK census. TODD with Anne brings up more couple is the UK than I have time to unpuzzle
........  I have her first name as ANNE but the christening has it has ANN - nothing major but ......
......... NEED marriage information
......... NEED death information and tombstone

Sibling Saturday - continuing with #2 John LITTLE

continuing.......................

LITTLE'S .....  my Mothers Fathers Side


PARENTS
Isaac (1806-1863) & Jane (Mounsey) (1812-1867) LITTLE   [2nd Great Grandparents ]

Siblings  .........
done Mary LITTLE (1831- ?) -     [Great Grand Aunt]
John LITTLE (1832-1861)         [Great Grand Uncle]
Anne LITTLE (1835-?)              [Great Grand Aunt]
William LITTLE (1837-1843)     [Great Grand Uncle]
Isaac LITTLE (1840-?)               [Great Grand Uncle]
done HUDSON LITTLE 1843-1934) [Great Grand Uncle]
Jane Eliza LITTLE 1846-1867)   [Great Grand Aunt]
James LITTLE 1849-1855)        [Great Grand Uncle]
Mounsey LITTLE (1851-1940) ......................................[My Great Grandfather]
Joseph LITTLE (1852-1932)     [Great Grand Uncle]

next is JOHN LITTLE.........  second child and first son ....... looks like named after both of his grandfathers

Found his christening information........  18 Jul 1832. so that shows one year and a few months in between first child Mary and John.

Found John in the 1841 UK Census only............. he was not in the 1851 UK census with his parents. Not able to find him alone or in another household, but not sure I would recognize him at this point. He would be only 18 but I think children left home or started work a lot younger than they do today. He only lived till April 1861 so he may have died too early in the year to have been in1861 census. But what about the 1851 UK census? another item on my to-do list.  

1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census Transcription - Find My Past nov 2014
Street: Church Town, Parish: Castle Sowerby, registration district: Penrith, County: Cumberland, England archive reference: HO107, piece #: 172; book #: 1, folio # 4, page #: 2, record set: 1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census........

First Name      Last Name       Gender     Age     Birth Year      Birth Place
Isaac              Little                 Male         35       1806          Cumberland, England
Jane                                       Female      30       1811                 "
Mary                                      Female     10       1831                 "
John                                       Male        8        1833                 "
Ann                                        Female       6        1835                 "
William                                     Male        4        1837                 "
Isaac                                        Male        0(10mn)1841               "

I believe this to be my John's death information but I am taking the source information to the LIBRARY with me in February and see if it has more information. 

Wonder about a a tombstone? Maybe if I find where the parents are buried I might find some of the children.

What do I know about John? ..................

...... his is the second child, first son, looks like he was named after both grandfathers

...... christened 18 Jul 1832 (a little more than a year after first child was born)

...... born in Watermillock, Cumberland, England

...... in 1841 UK census as an 8 year old (shows him born in 1833 but that is an estimate)

...... DID NOT find 1851 UK Census - he is not with his parents in 1851

...... John died as a young man in Apr 1861 -so probably he will not show up in 1861 UK census

WISHFUL WEDNESDAY - Little's continuing #1 Mary Little

continuing.................

LITTLE'S -  my Mothers Fathers side ..........

PARENTS
Isaac (1806-1863) & Jane (Mounsey) (1812-1867) LITTLE   [2nd Great Grandparents ]

Siblings  .........
Mary LITTLE (1831- ?) -        [Great Grand Aunt]
John LITTLE (1832-1861)         [Great Grand Uncle]
Anne LITTLE (1835-?)              [Great Grand Aunt]
William LITTLE (1837-1843)     [Great Grand Uncle]
Isaac LITTLE (1840-?)               [Great Grand Uncle]
done HUDSON LITTLE 1843-1934) [Great Grand Uncle]
Jane Eliza LITTLE 1846-1867)   [Great Grand Aunt]
James LITTLE 1849-1855)        [Great Grand Uncle]
Mounsey LITTLE (1851-1940) ......................................[My Great Grandfather]
Joseph LITTLE (1852-1932)     [Great Grand Uncle]

so which sibling should I start with..........  I know you are saying just start at the beginning and work your way through...........  OK!



                           Mary Little,
                             first child and first daughter of Isaac and Jane (Mounsey) Little.


Mary Little married a man named John Strong. This is all I know about this couple right now.

I did find christening information about Mary.

I have looked for marriage information, birth/christening for John Strong.....  and of course census records but nothing so far. When you know little about a person it is hard to identify them among dozens of couples with the same names and same dates.......  Something will open up sooner or later.

Ok,  what I do know about Mary?
.........appears she is named after her mothers mothers 
.........she was born in 1831 in Bassenthwaite Cumberland, England
 ........first child and first daughter of Isaac and Jane (Mounsey) Little
.........she is in the 1841 UK census under her parents Isaac and Jane Little/ Cumberland, England. 
.........she was 10 years old according to the 1841 UK census
..........in the 1851 UK Census she is no longer listed with her parents 
.........1851 at 20 years of age has she already gotten married, or working somewhere else, or died. 

I am going to work on the assumption until I can/cannot prove it that she married this John Strong before the 1851 UK census came out OR that she was a servant in another home first and then married John Armstrong
.........NO marriage date 
.........NO death dates for either one so nothing to add there.  
Mary and Little and John and Armstrong are all such common names that I will need to know more in order to make a good choice but................

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1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census Transcription - Find My Past nov 2014
Street: Church Town, Parish: Castle Sowerby, registration district: Penrith, County: Cumberland, England archive reference: HO107, piece #: 172; book #: 1, folio # 4, page #: 2, record set: 1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census........

First Name      Last Name       Gender     Age     Birth Year      Birth Place
Isaac              Little                 Male         35       1806          Cumberland, England
Jane                                       Female     30       1811                   "
Mary                                    Female     10       1831                   "
John                                       Male          8        1833                  "
Ann                                        Female       6        1835                  "
William                                   Male           4        1837                  "
Isaac                                     Male           0(10mn)1841                 "
==========================================

John and Mary (Little) Strong

Matrilineal Monday - MARRIAGE of Isaac and Jane (Mounsey) LITTLE and more

..........continuing with LITTLE'S- my Mothers Fathers side

Found this Marriage information for Isaac and Jane LITTLE...........

England Marriages 1538-1973 for Isaac LITTLE

Groom's Name: Isaac LITTLE
Bride's Name: Jane MOUNSEY
Marriage Date & Place: 2 Jan 1831 Bassenthwaite, Cumberland, England

Indexing project #M04301-2/ system origin - England-ODM / source file # 90561

FamilySearch.org 4.7.2011

...........and then last night I found this information on Jane Mounsey's parents marriage... John & Mary (Skelton) Mounsey .........how thrilling to be able to expand back with more information and locate another woman's maiden name. I am absolutely thrilled to be able to put a name to another first name only woman. Take that UNKNOWN off and replace it with Mary Skelton. Nice!!! So now there is another SURNAME to research (sometime)

I did look for Isaac Little's parents marriage information but didn't find anything..... John and Jane (Hudson) Little- I'll add this to my LIBRARY to-do research list.

Sunday Census- Following Through the Census

......continuing with LITTLE'S in England in the 1800's


LITTLE'S are my Mothers Fathers side..................

I was not able to find a 1831 United Kingdom census but here are the 1841-1851- & 1861 which seems to account for all 10 children over the years.............. but a closer look shows that JAMES (1848-1855) does not appear on any of the census and he should have appeared only on the 1851. Big question, what happened? I need to go back to the original document and see if I left him off or he was on the another page.

1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census Transcription - Find My Past nov 2014
Street: Church Town, Parish: Castle Sowerby, registration district: Penrith, County: Cumberland, England archive reference: HO107, piece #: 172; book #: 1, folio # 4, page #: 2, record set: 1841 England, Wales, & Scotland Census........

First Name      Last Name       Gender     Age     Birth Year      Birth Place
Isaac              Little                 Male         35       1806          Cumberland, England
Jane                                       Female      30       1811                 "

Mary                                      Female     10        1831                 "
John                                       Male          8        1833                 "
Ann                                        Female       6        1835                 "
William                                   Male          4        1837                 "
Isaac                                     Male           0(10mn)1841              "

1851 England, Wales, & Scotland Census Transcription....

ISAAC LITTLE 45 (abt 1806) HEAD; spouses name: Jane; gender: male; where born; Castle Sowerby, Cumberland, England; civil parish: Bassenthwaite; county/island: Cumberland; country: England; registration district: cockermouth; sub-registration district: Keswick; ED: 4a; household schedule #: 30; Others in resident:

Jane  wife 38  Cumberland, Greystone

  

Isaac son  10  Cumberland, Castle Sowerby  scholar

Hudson son 7  Cumberland, Bassenthwaite   scholar

Jane Eliza  dau 5  Cumberland, Bassenthwaite

1861 England, Wales, & Scotland Census Transcription 

ISAAC LITTLE - 55, abt 1806, head male;school master; spouse:Jane; where born: Castle Sowerby, Cumberland,England; civil parish: Bassenthwaite; ecclesiastical parish: Bassenthwaite; county: Cumberland, country: England; registration district: Cockermouth; sub-registration district: Keswick, ED 13; household schedule # 46;

Others in resident: 

  Jane  wife 48   school mistress

  

Mounsey  son 9  scholar

Joseph      son 7 scholar

**All children born between 1831 and 1853.
Isaac and Jane both passed away before the 1871 Census. All children out on their own, one way or another.
John, William, Jane Eliza, and James also had passes away before the 1871 UK census.
Hudson sailed off to New Zealand hoping for gold in 1864....  so before 1871 UK census.

**I did find Mounsey in the 1871 UK Census
1871 England Census - civil parish: Egremont; county/country: Cumberland, England; reg dist:Whitehaven; sub-reg: Egrement; ED: 4k; household schedule: 21

1. MOUNSEY LITTLE -  19; abt 1852; farm SERVANT; male, B: Bassenthwaite, Cumberland, England;
2. Jeremiah Ganson - head- 44 - farm of 215 acres
3. Sarah Ganson - wife- 39
4. Mary Ganson- dau - 9 -scholar
5. William Ganson- son - 3
6. Sarah Ann Ganson - dau - 1
7. William Simpson - farmers assistant  -19
8. Robert Jackson- farm servant - 25
9. Allen Southwaite - farm servant - 18
10.William Southwaite - farm servant - 24
11.Jane Storey - farm servant - 18
12.Ann Armstrong - Nurse - 14

I have been told that Mounsey came to America as a young man in 1872. (I have found him in the 1880 through the 1940 US Census- note census was taken in April 1940 and Mounsey died in July 1940)

**I did locate Joseph married in the 1881 UK Census but not sure about the 1871 except he might have been a servant- I found a couple of single men about the right age from the right area of England but not sure. I searched the 1891 UK Census and did not find him - I would have thought that the last 2 sons and maybe all three would have been listed under their parents in 1891 but did not find them YET.

1881 UK Census..
1. LITTLE, Joseph  head  M/m-27 b: Bassenthwaite, Cumberland England o: Railway labourer & farmer of 3 acres of land
2.             Margaretta wife M/f-27 b: Newlands, Cumberland, England
3.             Mounsey    son       m-5 b: Underskiddaw, Cumberland, England
4.             Harry          son       m-3 b: Underskiddaw, Cumberland, England
5.             Joseph Wm son      m-1 b: Underskiddaw, Cumberland, England


**So this still leaves Mary, Anne, Isaac.........
I was told that Mary married a man named John Strong but no luck locating them.
I was told that Anne married a man named Mr. Todd but no luck locating them.
AND I have NO information about Isaac........  but I am still looking.

Sibling Saturday - Continuing with the "Little Family"

Since I devoted all of December to my Great Grand Uncle Hudson LITTLE who was born in England, moved to New Zealand, married, & lived his life in New Zealand. I do still have a little more research to do on Hudson and his family, so I've got my list of research to be done in Salt Lake City when I go in February

I am going to continue with the same family but the other siblings.............. who will that be?
OK let's start at the beginning again with Hudson's parents and the rest of his siblings.............

              reminder "LITTLE'S" are my Mothers Fathers line
PARENTS
Isaac (1806-1863) & Jane (Mounsey) (1812-1867) LITTLE   [2nd Great Grandparents ]

Siblings of Hudson's.........
Mary LITTLE (1831- ?) -          [Great Grand Aunt]
John LITTLE (1832-1861)         [Great Grand Uncle]
Anne LITTLE (1835-?)              [Great Grand Aunt]
William LITTLE (1837-1843)     [Great Grand Uncle]
Isaac LITTLE (1840-?)               [Great Grand Uncle]
HUDSON LITTLE 1843-1934) [Great Grand Uncle]
Jane Eliza LITTLE 1846-1867)   [Great Grand Aunt]
James LITTLE 1849-1855)        [Great Grand Uncle]
Mounsey LITTLE (1851-1940) ......................................[My Great Grandfather]
Joseph LITTLE (1852-1932)     [Great Grand Uncle]

Imagine 10 children! It seems to be the norm back in these days. AND yikes! no I can't imagine having and raising that many children. I would be overwhelmed. Two children was just right for me.

I see that there are 1 & 2 & 3 years in between each child's birth. Unfortunately it does appear  that several didn't live very long -

John, the second child, was only 31 when he passed.
William, the fourth child, was only 6 years old when he passed.
Jane Eliza, the seventh child,  was only 21 when she passed.
James, the eighth child,  was only 7 years old when he passed.

I don't have a death date yet for Mary, Anne and Isaac so don't know how long they lived.
Yet Hudson, Mounsey and Joseph lived into their 80's and 90's.
However their parents, Isaac and Jane only lived into their mid 50's.

........and at this point it looks like Hudson (my great grand uncle) as a young man sailed off to New Zealand and Mounsey (my great grandfather) as a young man sailed off to America. I don't think any of the other siblings left England, but we will see as we go through each one.

I just went through the FamilySearch Catalog and found the births of all 10 of the children. I feel good about that........... here is one example .......

Now I can add these 10 to my list for Salt Lake City .........  get copies of the originals. I hope, anyway. It says it is from an Indexing Project (Batch) Number..........  so I am thinking they are only in the indexing project but the documents have not been digitized yet. Anyone know for sure?

I found one birth/christening document that could also be from this family but they are not listed in my family file or not seen on any census either. This child might not be part of this family, OR the child might not have lived till the 1841 census. ADD or NOT??

I looked and Anne, William and Isaac plus this Jane were all born in Sebergham, Cumberland, England. So I can't rule this Jane out yet. ALL children were born in Cumberland, England.
John was born in Watermillock, Cumberland, England
Mary, Hudson, Jane Eliza, James, Mounsey, and Joseph were all born in Bassenthwaite, Cumberland, England

I can see I need a map to see how close or far away these towns are to each other. I tried to look at maps on WorldGenWeb and was disappointed. I do see that Cumberland is on the northwest coast below Scotland.  I do have an idea where all  the villages/parishes are located but I am very visual and need a good detailed map to refer too. I will add this map to my research list - Great Britain and Cumberland.

Father Isaac LITTLE was a teacher and school master (from 1851 & 1861 UK census) and 1861 UK census shows Jane Mounsey LITTLE was a school mistress. So they could have moved several times when teaching at different schools which would account for the children being born in different towns/villages but all within Cumberland. .


?? BIRTH OF FATHER:   ..........   this is on my Salt Lake City research list 
Name: Isaac LITTLE
Parents: John Little and Jane Hudson


BIRTH OF MOTHER: 
Name: Jane MOUNSEY
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 10 Jun 1812
baptism/christening place: BOWNESS ON SOLWAY,CUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
birth date: 31 May 1812
father's name: John Mounsey
mother's name: Mary Skelton
indexing project (batch) number: C03678-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 90567 FamilySearch.org  Jan2012